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Post  rick on Sun 23 Dec - 15:29

The purpose of this thread will be to use various lay selections as a base for an acca fund
i am looking to start this early in the New Year

here is
THE STAKING PLAN

The staking plan takes on the format of a price banded plan in order to control liabilities on bigger prices.

Follow the staking plan below:-

For all prices of 3.5 to lay, OR LOWER, we lay with a stake which is 1% of our betting bank. With a hypothetical betting bank of £1000, the stake will be £10.

For all prices above 3.5 to a maximum of 7.5, we lay with a stake which is 0.6% of our betting bank. With an hypothetical betting bank of £1000, the stake will be £6.

For all prices above 7.5 to a maximum of 11, we lay with a stake which is 0.4% of our betting bank. With a hypothetical betting bank of £1000, the stake will be £4.

Should the bank rise, the stake will rise accordingly. If our betting bank is now £1500, our stakes will be 1% = £15, 0.6% = £9 and 0.4% = £6.

Should our betting bank fall below the level at which we originally started eg in this example £1000, we still calculate our stakes AS IF the betting bank is £1000.

Please note that the 1%, 0.6% and 0.4% figures are the stakes we place, and NOT liabilities which will be stakes multiplied by (the lay price – 1).

Please try to place all bets at the same time and keep your own records of profits and loss, because they may differ from mine. The prices you get for a horse will vary according to the time at which you place your bet. Should the price change from my guidance price, and move into a different price band, you must use that price band

Eg HORSE A .My guidance price on the post is 5.4. We lay the horse with a stake of what? Yes 0.6% of our betting bank.
BUT, if you place your bet a little later when the horse’s price may have risen to 7.6. So looking at the price bands and note that we must place 0.4% of the betting bank, as the price now falls within the price band 7.5 – 11.

This is why you should keep your own records.
There could be as many as 15 selections on a day and most prices should fall within the parameters, ie up to 11
I hope this is clear.
Please contact me if you need any clarification.
I have a spreadsheet, on which i have part of my testing figures that i could send you if you pm me (don't forget to include your email!)

BE very

affraid
but it could be an interesting journey, and we should have some fun!
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Post  rick on Sat 29 Dec - 18:49

Hi guys,
been getting this all sorted and hope to start this soon after the New Year
a little more background and an example of how i will set this out so you can follow
1.
i started doing records of this on 3rd Nov with a bank of £1000. November started badly and i thought i was on a hiding to nothing, but picked up towards the end of the month so the acca total at end of November was a mere £1136.20, a 13.6% gain.
however, by 28 Dec it had reached £1400, a gain of 23% on the previous month, which is what i was looking for ie nearly doubled growth, due in part of course to the power of compounding???
assuming similar growth of 23% per month!!!
at the end of January the bank could be £2044 and so doubled,
Feb £2514
March £3092
April £3803
May £4677
June £5753
July £7076
August £8704
Sept £10706
Oct £13169
not bad return for a year's work?
well, if it works that is!

2.
below is an example of today's picks and the way i will look to set them out, as you can see the majority of lays will be in the 3 to 6 bracket, and i will also state the amount to be laid
eg in this example up to 3.5 is £14. up to 7.5 is £8 and over 7.5 would be £6.

3.
after racing i will show what the bank balance is at the end for tomorrows start calculations.



29-Dec
Newbury 12.30 Moon over Miami 5 £8.00
Lingfield 12.55 Brazillian Brush 4.4 £8.00
Bangor 1.10 Vitray 5.4 £8.00
Lingfield 2.00 Dyanamo Dave 4.2 £8.00
Lingfield 2.30 Fajr 3.45 £14.00
Newbury 2.40 Elusive Dream 5.7 £8.00
Musselburgh 2.55 Majorca 5 £8.00
Wolverhampton 7.00 Bahamian Lad 5.1 £8.00
Wolverhampton 7.55 Her Name is Rio 4.6 £8.00

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Post  rick on Sun 30 Dec - 1:38

29-Dec Newbury 12.30 Moon over Miami 1st 7/2 5 1 £8.00 -£32.00 £1,368.40
Lingfield 12.55 Brazillian Brush UP 2/1 4.4 4 £8.00 £7.60 £1,376.00
Bangor 1.10 Vitray 2nd 9/2 5.4 2 £8.00 £7.60 £1,383.60
Lingfield 2.00 Dyanamo Dave UP 5/2 4.2 4 £8.00 £7.60 £1,391.20
Lingfield 2.30 Fajr 3rd 9/4 3.45 3 £14.00 £13.30 £1,404.50
Newbury 2.40 Elusive Dream 2nd 9/2 5.7 2 £8.00 £7.60 £1,412.10
Musselburgh 2.55 Majorca UR 7/2 5 ur £8.00 £7.60 £1,419.70
Wolverhampton 7.00 Bahamian Lad 2nd 5/2 5.1 2 £9.00 £8.55 £1,428.25
Wolverhampton 7.55 Her Name is Rio UP 15/2 4.6 4 £9.00 £8.55 £1,436.80
Wolverhampton 8.55 Mighty Mover NR nr FALSE £1,436.80
result
net profit for the day £36.80,
gain roughly 2.63%
stakes for tomorrow are
£14.00
£9.00
£6.00
lol!

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Post  rick on Sun 30 Dec - 13:25

dry run time!
i will be looking at starting this properly, with a start bank of £1000 in the New Year
just 3 selections today
i have put the current (at time just before posting) betfair lay price and the lay stake, so if you get a different price you will have to amend accordingly, see previous post for today's price ranges
okay
30-Dec
Haydock 1.00 Rightway Star 3.75 £9.00 2nd 3/1
Lingfield 1.10 Barry Island 4.3 £9.00 UP 6/4
Taunton 2.25 Pertinent 3.85 £9.00
good luck
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Post  rick on Sun 30 Dec - 17:58

today's result
3 from 3
30-Dec
Haydock 1.00 Rightway Star UP 6/4 3.75 4 £9.00 £8.55 £1,445.35
Lingfield 1.10 Barry Island 2nd 3/1 4.3 2 £9.00 £8.55 £1,453.90
Taunton 2.25 Pertinent UP 6/1 3.85 4 £9.00 £8.55 £1,462.45
gain of £25.65 today, 1.78%
tomorrows lay stakes
up to 3.5 £15.00
up to 7.5 £9.00
over 7.5 £6.00
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Post  Pauluk on Sun 30 Dec - 19:32

Good luck with this Rick m8y watching with interest
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Post  rick on Mon 31 Dec - 13:23

Pauluk wrote:Good luck with this Rick m8y watching with interest

Thanks Paul, this has been something I've wanted to have a go at ever since reading of Maria's success, which is actually what got me started on looking at laying horses as a serious investment.
Remains to be seen whether it can be successful AND whether i can maintain the commitment!
Any advice / encouragement will be greatly appreciated.
Rick

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Post  rick on Mon 31 Dec - 13:25

31-Dec
Wolverhampton 12.50 Hello Roberto 4.4 £9.00
Uttoxeter 1.30 Negus de Beaumont 2.44 £15.00
Warwick 1.40 Overstrand 4.6 £9.00
Warwick 2.40 Beat the Boys 4.7 £9.00
Uttoxeter 3.00 Cousin Nicky 6.8 £9.00

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Post  rick on Mon 31 Dec - 18:40

today's result
shame about the 3rd race, prevented a larger profit, however still a profit today of £6.60, or just 0.45% cumulative gain.
but hey a GAIN is STILL a GAIN! Cool

31-Dec
Wolverhampton 12.50 Hello Roberto UP 5/2 4.4 4 £9.00 £8.55 £1,471.00
Uttoxeter 1.30 Negus de Beaumont 2nd 9/4 2.44 2 £15.00 £14.25 £1,485.25
Warwick 1.40 Overstrand 3rd 5/1 4.6 3 £9.00 £8.55 £1,493.80
Warwick 2.40 Beat the Boys 1st 11/4 4.7 1 £9.00 -£33.30 £1,460.50
Uttoxeter 3.00 Cousin Nicky UP 10/3 6.8 4 £9.00 £8.55 £1,469.05

so that is a 47% increase in 2 months, for approx 10 mins 'work' a day

okay then, you should have the gist of this now
tomorrow we should begin in earnest, but i may leave the start till the 2nd Jan, cos of tonight's drunken celebrations!!

and so the bank will be reset to £1000 and my first lay stakes will be
3.5 and under £10
3.5 to 7.5 £6
over 7.5 £4

I shall now go and get a couple of beers, and wish you all a very Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year.
Here's to a great 2008.

lol! drunken

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Post  rick on Tue 1 Jan - 13:24

How sad am I?
Happy New Year, let's hope it's a good one, but what a miserable wet day.
head a bit delicate, but as i did the research yesterday, that would have been hard this morning, but the kids got me up anyway, so here are today's selections
good luck
01-Jan-08
Exeter 12.40 Carruthers 4.6 £6.00
Cheltenham 1.00 An Accordian 5.7 £6.00
Cheltenham 1.35 Papini 5 £6.00
Exeter 1.50 Minella Tipperary 3.9 £6.00
Catterick 2.30 Border Tale 5.9 £6.00
Catterick 3.00 Super Baby 5.1 £6.00
Cheltenham 3.20 Wichita Lineman 5 £6.00
Exeter 3.30 Good Company 5.4 £6.00
Exeter 4.05 Like a Hurricane 7.8 £4.00
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Post  rick on Wed 2 Jan - 11:32

result
would have posted earlier but my internet was down y'day pm when i came back from visiting
but back this morning, however may be a little late to post any for today
01-Jan-08
Exeter 12.40 Carruthers 2nd 6/1 4.7 4.6 2 £6.00 £5.70 £1,005.70
Cheltenham 1.00 An Accordian UP 5/1 5.7 4 £6.00 £5.70 £1,011.40
Cheltenham 1.35 Papini 3rd 9/2 5 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,017.10
Exeter 1.50 Minella Tipperary UP 9/4 3.9 4 £6.00 £5.70 £1,022.80
Catterick 2.30 Border Tale NR nr FALSE £1,022.80
Catterick 3.00 Super Baby 3rd 9/2 5.1 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,028.50
Cheltenham 3.20 Wichita Lineman 2nd 4/1 5.4 2 £6.00 £5.70 £1,034.20
Exeter 3.30 Good Company 3rd 5/1 5.4 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,039.90
Exeter 4.05 Like a Hurricane UP 13/2 7.8 4 £4.00 £3.80 £1,043.70
full house
well pleased Very Happy
4.37% gain on 1st day
will be well pleased if i can keep this performance?

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Post  rick on Wed 2 Jan - 13:43

morning,
starting bank £1043.70
02-Jan
Wolverhampton 1.50 Macademy Royal 7 £6.00
Wolverhampton 2.25 Martingrangeboy 4.9 £6.00
Folkestone 2.35 NorNorEast 4.8 £6.00
Ayr 2.45 Akilak 5.4 £6.00
Wolverhampton 2.55 Treetops Hotel 4.9 £6.00
Kempton 8.20 Leamington 4.7 £6.00

it would be nice to have another full house!
we'll see
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Post  rick on Wed 2 Jan - 20:49

02-Jan results
bank start £1043.70
02-Jan
Wolverhampton 1.50 Macademy Royal 2nd 5/2 7 2 £6.00 £5.70 £1,049.40
Wolverhampton 2.25 Martingrangeboy UP 4/1 4.9 4 £6.00 £5.70 £1,055.10
Folkestone 2.35 NorNorEast 3rd 5/1 4.8 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,060.80
Ayr 2.45 Akilak 3rd 4/1 5.4 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,066.50
Wolverhampton 2.55 Treetops Hotel 3rd 5/1 4.9 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,072.20
Kempton 8.20 Leamington 2nd 9/2 4.7 2 £6.00 £5.70 £1,077.90
gain of £34.20
or 3.28%
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Post  Brian on Thu 3 Jan - 1:42

looking good Rick and still watching with interest Smile
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Post  rick on Thu 3 Jan - 2:53

Brian wrote:looking good Rick and still watching with interest Smile
thanks Brian,
decided to have a bit of fun with a spreadsheet this evening
if (BIG IF) i can keep this growth up at current rate??
and average 3.8% a day!!!??
by 13 Feb (44 days) my bank will be £4971
by 2 March (62 days) £10098
by 28 march (88 days) £25654
by 15 April (106 days) £50202
by 4 May (125 days) £101969
by 28 May (149 days) £249579
by 16 June (168 days) £506941
and we should hit the million£ mark on 5th July at £1029692 !!!!!!!!!! gulp!!
then we could really have some fun!!
off to bed to dream of all those millions!
i wish!

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Post  Pauluk on Thu 3 Jan - 3:55

Keep at it Rick m8 Very Happy
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Post  rick on Thu 3 Jan - 13:40

having ordered my new yacht, well they do need 6mths notice!!!
day 3 is here
03-Jan
Lingfield 12.35 Rollin 'n Tumblin 5.8 £6.00
Fontwell 1.15 Nation State 3.3 £11.00
Fontwell 2.55 Honour High 5.1 £6.00
Lingfield 3.45 Kindelight Blue 5 £6.00
Wolverhampton 8.50 Kindkintyre 6.8 £6.00
Wolverhampton 9.20 Scamperdale 3.4 £11.00
good luck
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Post  rick on Fri 4 Jan - 13:02

yacht put on hold!
i am having a few internet access problems at present which may cause me to suspend this until it is sorted, as sometimes i have not got all my lays met or only part met.
this saved me some losses yesterday.
i've also found my spreadsheet does not allow for dead heats - haven't there been a lot of them this last year?
is there a market?
anyhow here are yesterday's results which i may have to amend when/if i sort out the deadheat tally
i only lost £9.90 on Kindelight Blue, and only £4.56 on Scamperdale as only £1.90 was met at 3.4
it's probably easiest to scrap the whole day as i actually gained £14.99 as opposed to losing £25.90.
so i was pleased
so this is just for the record
though still ahead daily gain down to 1.73% per day, and my millionaire dreams are in tatters!
as it will now take me ALL year to make ONLY £500k!!!!
so the dream is still alive!
told you i was doing this for a bit of fun, didn't i
03-Jan
Lingfield 12.35 Rollin 'n Tumblin 5.8 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,083.60
Fontwell 1.15 Nation State 3.3 3 £11.00 £10.45 £1,094.05
Fontwell 2.55 Honour High 5.1 3 £7.00 £6.65 £1,100.70
Lingfield 3.45 Kindelight Blue 5 1 £7.00 -£28.00 £1,072.70
Wolverhampton 8.50 Kindkintyre 6.8 4 £6.00 £5.70 £1,078.40
Wolverhampton 9.20 Scamperdale 3.4 1 £11.00 -£26.40 £1,052.00
cheers
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Post  rick on Fri 4 Jan - 13:23

04-Jan
Southwell 12.40 Countrywide Belle 5.9 £6.00 FALSE £1,052.00
Lingfield 1.20 Haldibari 2.9 £11.00 FALSE £1,052.00
Southwell 1.40 Conclave 5.9 £6.00 FALSE £1,052.00
Southwell 2.10 Hucking Heat 3.15 £11.00 FALSE £1,052.00
Lingfield 2.20 Inchloch 5.8 £6.00 FALSE £1,052.00
Wolverhampton 7.20 Compton Classic 8.2 £4.00 FALSE £1,052.00
Wolverhampton 8.20 Fresh Mint 4.1 £6.00 FALSE £1,052.00
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Post  Pauluk on Fri 4 Jan - 23:59

The fun continues Very Happy
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Post  jaadoo on Sat 5 Jan - 1:08

Brilliant start mate. Looks like you will be joining the millionaire club soon. cheers Good Luck

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Post  rick on Sat 5 Jan - 1:26

the day ended badly with 2 winners -yuck- and we are back where we started!!!!!
back to beans on toast!
04-Jan
Southwell 12.40 Countrywide Belle UP 5/1 5.9 4 £6.00 £5.70 £1,057.70
Lingfield 1.20 Haldibari 2nd 7/4 2.9 2 £11.00 £10.45 £1,068.15
Southwell 1.40 Conclave UP 9/2 5.9 4 £6.00 £5.70 £1,073.85
Southwell 2.10 Hucking Heat 1st 2/1 3.15 1 £11.00 -£23.65 £1,050.20
Lingfield 2.20 Inchloch 3rd 3/1 5.8 3 £6.00 £5.70 £1,055.90
Wolverhampton 7.20 Compton Classic 1st 15/2 8.2 1 £4.00 -£28.80 £1,027.10
Wolverhampton 8.20 Fresh Mint 1st 5/2 4.1 1 £6.00 -£18.60 £1,008.50

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Post  rick on Sat 5 Jan - 13:58

jaadoo wrote:Brilliant start mate. Looks like you will be joining the millionaire club soon. cheers Good Luck
thanks Jaa bounce
but maybe not quite yet!!
though hopefully the benefits of a sound staking plan may help minimise losses and maximise gains.
yesterday was a poor day, not had 3 winners before, but sure i will again!
actually, i had a poor day laying generally yesterday, funny how it goes like that from time to time?
must be them Racing Gods not wanting one to get too cocky!
moving on start bank is £1008.50, so min stakes again
here is today, let's hope for a good day to recover some lost ground
05-Jan
Lingfield 1.40 Baytown Blaze 4.2 £6.00
Wincanton 1.45 Starzaan 5.9 £6.00
Lingfield 2.15 Requisite 3.1 £10.00
Chepstow 2.30 Back on Line 3.7 £6.00
Lingfield 2,45 Millville 3.9 £6.00
Kempton 7.50 Landucci 6 £6.00


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Post  rick on Sun 6 Jan - 0:01

a woeful day, i don't think i have EVER had 4 1st places on ONE day when laying, come to think of it i cannot think of when i have had 4 1sts when BACKING either. affraid
we would have lost much more had I been going level stakes though!!
Saturday's can be SO unpredictable.
05-Jan
Lingfield 1.40 Baytown Blaze 4.2 2 £6.00 £5.70 £1,014.20
Wincanton 1.45 Starzaan 5.9 1 £6.00 -£29.40 £984.80
Lingfield 2.15 Requisite 3.1 1 £10.00 -£21.00 £963.80
Chepstow 2.30 Back on Line 3.7 1 £6.00 -£16.20 £947.60
Lingfield 2,45 Millville 3.9 1 £6.00 -£17.40 £930.20
Kempton 7.50 Landucci 6 3 £6.00 £5.70 £935.90

so we record our first LOSS of £72.90 sorry
Crying or Very sad
but we will recover from this MINOR (I hope) setback and move forward
bounce bounce

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Post  Brian on Sun 6 Jan - 4:19

Keep at it Rick Very Happy you are doing a great job ! and me thinks the worst is now behind you, Sods law has had his way Smile now its pay back time! Laughing
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